Discussion:
Bugzilla outage/upgrade on 2 December 2018
Ben Cotton
2018-11-26 15:57:18 UTC
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Hi all,

If you haven't seen the banner at the top of bugzilla.redhat.com, it
is scheduled to undergo an upgrade from Bugzilla 4 to Bugzilla 5 on
December 2 2018. The outage will begin on 2 December at 0:00 UTC and
end on 2 December at 12:00 UTC.

For more information on Bugzilla 5, see:
https://partner-bugzilla.redhat.com/page.cgi?id=whats-new.html
https://partner-bugzilla.redhat.com/page.cgi?id=release-notes.html

Bugzilla 5.0 introduces a new REST endpoint to replace XML-RPC and
JSON-RPC. The XML-RPC and JSON-RPC APIs will remain available.

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Neal Gompa
2018-11-26 16:01:12 UTC
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Post by Ben Cotton
Hi all,
If you haven't seen the banner at the top of bugzilla.redhat.com, it
is scheduled to undergo an upgrade from Bugzilla 4 to Bugzilla 5 on
December 2 2018. The outage will begin on 2 December at 0:00 UTC and
end on 2 December at 12:00 UTC.
https://partner-bugzilla.redhat.com/page.cgi?id=whats-new.html
https://partner-bugzilla.redhat.com/page.cgi?id=release-notes.html
Bugzilla 5.0 introduces a new REST endpoint to replace XML-RPC and
JSON-RPC. The XML-RPC and JSON-RPC APIs will remain available.
Out of curiosity, does anyone know where the source code for Red Hat
Bugzilla actually is? I tried to find it a while ago, and even tried
to send an email asking about it (with no response...). This variant
of Bugzilla has features that aren't present in vanilla Bugzilla 5.x,
nor are they present in the Mozilla fork (bmo)...



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Emmanuel Seyman
2018-11-26 16:06:39 UTC
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Post by Neal Gompa
Out of curiosity, does anyone know where the source code for Red Hat
Bugzilla actually is? I tried to find it a while ago, and even tried
to send an email asking about it (with no response...). This variant
of Bugzilla has features that aren't present in vanilla Bugzilla 5.x,
nor are they present in the Mozilla fork (bmo)...
The source code isn't avaliable (although I've been told at least one
Bugzilla developer has access to it).

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=478886

Emmanuel
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Jeff Fearn
2018-11-26 22:07:13 UTC
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Post by Emmanuel Seyman
Post by Neal Gompa
Out of curiosity, does anyone know where the source code for Red Hat
Bugzilla actually is? I tried to find it a while ago, and even tried
to send an email asking about it (with no response...). This variant
of Bugzilla has features that aren't present in vanilla Bugzilla 5.x,
nor are they present in the Mozilla fork (bmo)...
The source code isn't avaliable (although I've been told at least one
Bugzilla developer has access to it).
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=478886
This is correct. We are in a very drawn out, and painful, process to get
this opened up.

Dylan from BMO is helping us out by doing an audit for us, but he is
doing it as a favor, in his own time, so it's taking about as long as
you'd expect to audit a 20 year old code base in your spare time.

Once Dylan is done, and we are putting no pressure on him to meet or
specify a time line, I'll do another round of infosec/product security
team hand shaking and then we should be able to open it.

Cheers, Jeff.
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Neal Gompa
2018-11-27 02:13:47 UTC
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Post by Jeff Fearn
Post by Emmanuel Seyman
Post by Neal Gompa
Out of curiosity, does anyone know where the source code for Red Hat
Bugzilla actually is? I tried to find it a while ago, and even tried
to send an email asking about it (with no response...). This variant
of Bugzilla has features that aren't present in vanilla Bugzilla 5.x,
nor are they present in the Mozilla fork (bmo)...
The source code isn't avaliable (although I've been told at least one
Bugzilla developer has access to it).
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=478886
This is correct. We are in a very drawn out, and painful, process to get
this opened up.
Dylan from BMO is helping us out by doing an audit for us, but he is
doing it as a favor, in his own time, so it's taking about as long as
you'd expect to audit a 20 year old code base in your spare time.
Once Dylan is done, and we are putting no pressure on him to meet or
specify a time line, I'll do another round of infosec/product security
team hand shaking and then we should be able to open it.
My recent interest in RHBZ code stems from two things:
* it has working SAML auth
* it supports external bug tracking (though I'm not sure if the
functionality has completely worked recently, and lacks pagure.io
itself...)

In Mageia, we're looking at revamping our identity management, and
we'd like to use SSO via SAML with our BZ5 system, but sadly this code
is not available for vanilla bz5 systems, and BMO uses CAS instead of
SAML or OIDC. :(

And of course, external bug tracking is useful for obvious reasons. :)
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Jeff Fearn
2018-11-27 08:37:51 UTC
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Post by Neal Gompa
Post by Jeff Fearn
Post by Emmanuel Seyman
Post by Neal Gompa
Out of curiosity, does anyone know where the source code for Red Hat
Bugzilla actually is? I tried to find it a while ago, and even tried
to send an email asking about it (with no response...). This variant
of Bugzilla has features that aren't present in vanilla Bugzilla 5.x,
nor are they present in the Mozilla fork (bmo)...
The source code isn't avaliable (although I've been told at least one
Bugzilla developer has access to it).
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=478886
This is correct. We are in a very drawn out, and painful, process to get
this opened up.
Dylan from BMO is helping us out by doing an audit for us, but he is
doing it as a favor, in his own time, so it's taking about as long as
you'd expect to audit a 20 year old code base in your spare time.
Once Dylan is done, and we are putting no pressure on him to meet or
specify a time line, I'll do another round of infosec/product security
team hand shaking and then we should be able to open it.
* it has working SAML auth
* it supports external bug tracking (though I'm not sure if the
functionality has completely worked recently, and lacks pagure.io
itself...)
In Mageia, we're looking at revamping our identity management, and
we'd like to use SSO via SAML with our BZ5 system, but sadly this code
is not available for vanilla bz5 systems, and BMO uses CAS instead of
SAML or OIDC. :(
And of course, external bug tracking is useful for obvious reasons. :)
As someone who has to use radius 2FA to access Bugzilla, I cannot tell
you just how much SSO rocks ^_^

I may have BCC'd Dylan on this reply ;)

Cheers, Jeff.
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Miroslav Suchý
2018-11-27 09:45:46 UTC
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Post by Ben Cotton
Bugzilla 5.0 introduces a new REST endpoint to replace XML-RPC and
JSON-RPC. The XML-RPC and JSON-RPC APIs will remain available.
Before someone jumps into porting their code to the new REST API (my team tried that) - it is undocumented, the few
documented examples does not work -> the new API is real mess now.

As the old API will obviously stay for longer period, you can keep calp and keep your XML-RPC and JSON-RPC scripts.

Miroslav
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Jeff Fearn
2018-11-27 21:41:34 UTC
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Post by Miroslav Suchý
Post by Ben Cotton
Bugzilla 5.0 introduces a new REST endpoint to replace XML-RPC and
JSON-RPC. The XML-RPC and JSON-RPC APIs will remain available.
Before someone jumps into porting their code to the new REST API (my team tried that) - it is undocumented, the few
documented examples does not work -> the new API is real mess now.
+1 I think upstream jumped the gun on pushing REST so hard, it's not
ready for production use IMO.
Post by Miroslav Suchý
As the old API will obviously stay for longer period, you can keep calp and keep your XML-RPC and JSON-RPC scripts.
I have a hand shake agreement with upstream that JSON-RPC will hang
around until we are happy that REST can fully replace it.

Cheers, Jeff.
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Ben Cotton
2018-11-30 15:13:46 UTC
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The upgrade of bugzilla.redhat.com has been delayed a week. It will
now be done on 9 December 2018 from 0:00 to 12:00 UTC.
Post by Ben Cotton
If you haven't seen the banner at the top of bugzilla.redhat.com, it
is scheduled to undergo an upgrade from Bugzilla 4 to Bugzilla 5 on
December 2 2018. The outage will begin on 2 December at 0:00 UTC and
end on 2 December at 12:00 UTC.
https://partner-bugzilla.redhat.com/page.cgi?id=whats-new.html
https://partner-bugzilla.redhat.com/page.cgi?id=release-notes.html
Bugzilla 5.0 introduces a new REST endpoint to replace XML-RPC and
JSON-RPC. The XML-RPC and JSON-RPC APIs will remain available.
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Neal Gompa
2018-11-30 15:45:14 UTC
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Post by Ben Cotton
The upgrade of bugzilla.redhat.com has been delayed a week. It will
now be done on 9 December 2018 from 0:00 to 12:00 UTC.
Aww, anyone know why?



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Jeff Fearn
2018-12-03 22:34:21 UTC
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Post by Neal Gompa
Post by Ben Cotton
The upgrade of bugzilla.redhat.com has been delayed a week. It will
now be done on 9 December 2018 from 0:00 to 12:00 UTC.
Aww, anyone know why?
The release pipe line was unexpectedly frozen, which blocked this and
several other system upgrades.

Cheers, Jeff.
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