Discussion:
Is Fedora 27 EOL?
Florian Weimer
2018-11-26 14:40:51 UTC
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There has been no EOL announcement, my guess for the EOL data
(2018-11-30) has not passed yet, but I get this when pushing to
src.fedoraproject.org:

remote: Running hooks for rpms/glibc
remote: Branch refs/heads/f27 is unsupported
remote: Denied push for ref 'refs/heads/f27' for user 'fweimer'
remote: All changes have been rejected

Is Fedora 27 EOL or not?

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Florian
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John Florian
2018-11-26 14:45:23 UTC
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Post by Florian Weimer
There has been no EOL announcement, my guess for the EOL data
(2018-11-30) has not passed yet
At the very least, I don't recall seeing the announcement that it will
be EOL in ~30 days.
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Ben Cotton
2018-11-26 15:05:29 UTC
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Post by John Florian
At the very least, I don't recall seeing the announcement that it will
be EOL in ~30 days.
That's my fault. I missed my reminder to send it. I apologize for the
short notice.

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Mohan Boddu
2018-11-26 15:18:32 UTC
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The 27 EOL should be tomorrow.

The n release gets EOL'ed 4 weeks after n+2 release.

But I am not sure why fedpkg is rejecting the push.
Post by Ben Cotton
Post by John Florian
At the very least, I don't recall seeing the announcement that it will
be EOL in ~30 days.
That's my fault. I missed my reminder to send it. I apologize for the
short notice.
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Ben Cotton
2018-11-26 15:30:32 UTC
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Post by Mohan Boddu
The 27 EOL should be tomorrow.
The n release gets EOL'ed 4 weeks after n+2 release.
The policy on the wiki[1] says "one month", which is fairly ambiguous.
I'll update that to say "four weeks", which is what we mean, but is
not the practical interpretation of what we say. Since I dropped the
ball on this, let's do the F27 EOL on Friday and I'll fix both the
text of the policy and my own workflow to prevent this issue in the
future.


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Florian Weimer
2018-11-26 15:51:32 UTC
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Post by Ben Cotton
Post by Mohan Boddu
The 27 EOL should be tomorrow.
The n release gets EOL'ed 4 weeks after n+2 release.
The policy on the wiki[1] says "one month", which is fairly ambiguous.
I'll update that to say "four weeks", which is what we mean, but is
not the practical interpretation of what we say. Since I dropped the
ball on this, let's do the F27 EOL on Friday and I'll fix both the
text of the policy and my own workflow to prevent this issue in the
future.
I don't understand.

Fedora 27 is already EOL *today* because it is impossible to push
updates:

$ git push
Counting objects: 3, done.
Delta compression using up to 4 threads.
Compressing objects: 100% (3/3), done.
Writing objects: 100% (3/3), 531 bytes | 531.00 KiB/s, done.
Total 3 (delta 2), reused 0 (delta 0)
remote: Running hooks for rpms/glibc
remote: Branch refs/heads/f27 is unsupported
remote: Denied push for ref 'refs/heads/f27' for user 'fweimer'
remote: All changes have been rejected
To ssh://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/rpms/glibc
! [remote rejected] HEAD -> f27 (pre-receive hook declined)
error: failed to push some refs to 'ssh://***@pkgs.fedoraproject.org/rpms/glibc'

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Florian
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Mohan Boddu
2018-11-26 15:59:53 UTC
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I am working on fixing it.

It should be fixed soon, I will send an update once its fixed.
Post by Florian Weimer
Post by Ben Cotton
Post by Mohan Boddu
The 27 EOL should be tomorrow.
The n release gets EOL'ed 4 weeks after n+2 release.
The policy on the wiki[1] says "one month", which is fairly ambiguous.
I'll update that to say "four weeks", which is what we mean, but is
not the practical interpretation of what we say. Since I dropped the
ball on this, let's do the F27 EOL on Friday and I'll fix both the
text of the policy and my own workflow to prevent this issue in the
future.
I don't understand.
Fedora 27 is already EOL *today* because it is impossible to push
$ git push
Counting objects: 3, done.
Delta compression using up to 4 threads.
Compressing objects: 100% (3/3), done.
Writing objects: 100% (3/3), 531 bytes | 531.00 KiB/s, done.
Total 3 (delta 2), reused 0 (delta 0)
remote: Running hooks for rpms/glibc
remote: Branch refs/heads/f27 is unsupported
remote: Denied push for ref 'refs/heads/f27' for user 'fweimer'
remote: All changes have been rejected
To ssh://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/rpms/glibc
! [remote rejected] HEAD -> f27 (pre-receive hook declined)
error: failed to push some refs to 'ssh://
Thanks,
Florian
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Matthew Miller
2018-11-26 16:08:29 UTC
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Post by Ben Cotton
The policy on the wiki[1] says "one month", which is fairly ambiguous.
I'll update that to say "four weeks", which is what we mean, but is
not the practical interpretation of what we say. Since I dropped the
ball on this, let's do the F27 EOL on Friday and I'll fix both the
text of the policy and my own workflow to prevent this issue in the
future.
For the record, FESCo ticket where 4 weeks / 28 days was made official:
https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1750



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Mohan Boddu
2018-11-27 00:03:39 UTC
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I am still updating the EOL's in pdc, but some of them should be updated.

I will send another email once all of them are updated.
Post by Matthew Miller
Post by Ben Cotton
The policy on the wiki[1] says "one month", which is fairly ambiguous.
I'll update that to say "four weeks", which is what we mean, but is
not the practical interpretation of what we say. Since I dropped the
ball on this, let's do the F27 EOL on Friday and I'll fix both the
text of the policy and my own workflow to prevent this issue in the
future.
https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1750
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Mohan Boddu
2018-11-27 05:01:22 UTC
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Okay, all of the eol entries for f27 in pdc should be updated now.

Please create a ticket at https://pagure.io/releng if you find any issues.

Thanks.
Post by Mohan Boddu
I am still updating the EOL's in pdc, but some of them should be updated.
I will send another email once all of them are updated.
Post by Matthew Miller
Post by Ben Cotton
The policy on the wiki[1] says "one month", which is fairly ambiguous.
I'll update that to say "four weeks", which is what we mean, but is
not the practical interpretation of what we say. Since I dropped the
ball on this, let's do the F27 EOL on Friday and I'll fix both the
text of the policy and my own workflow to prevent this issue in the
future.
https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1750
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