Schedule for Monday's FESCo Meeting (2018-11-12)

[Randy Barlow]

Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the
FESCo meeting Monday at 15:00UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on
irc.freenode.net.

To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto

or run:
date -d '2018-11-12 15:00 UTC'


Links to all issues to be discussed can be found at:
https://pagure.io/fesco/report/meeting_agenda


= Followups =

#topic #2003 Ursa Major (modules in buildroot) enablement
https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2003


= New business =

#topic #2009 libsolv SONAME bump in stable
https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2009

#topic #2013 to strict rules for branches deletion alongside with norules for theirs creations
https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2013


= Open Floor =

For more complete details, please visit each individual
issue. The report of the agenda items can be found at
https://pagure.io/fesco/report/meeting_agenda

If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can
reply to this e-mail, file a new issue at
https://pagure.io/fesco, e-mail me directly, or bring it
up at the end of the meeting, during the open floor topic. Note
that added topics may be deferred until the following meeting.

[Miro Hrončok]

Post by Randy Barlow
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the
FESCo meeting Monday at 15:00UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on
irc.freenode.net.
To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto
date -d '2018-11-12 15:00 UTC'
https://pagure.io/fesco/report/meeting_agenda
= Followups =
#topic #2003 Ursa Major (modules in buildroot) enablement
https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2003
= New business =
#topic #2009 libsolv SONAME bump in stable
https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2009
#topic #2013 to strict rules for branches deletion alongside with norules for theirs creations
https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2013
= Open Floor =
For more complete details, please visit each individual
issue. The report of the agenda items can be found at
https://pagure.io/fesco/report/meeting_agenda
If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can
reply to this e-mail

Hello Randy.

I'd like to discuss with FESCo: What can I do about Fedora policies that
are not happening. Notably, I mean policies for removing cruft from Fedora.

1) Long orphaned packages are not being retired after 6 weeks:

https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1970

2) FTBFS package are not being orphaned, nor retired:

https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1973
https://pagure.io/releng/issue/7718

I'll be on the meeting.

Thanks.

--
Miro Hrončok

[Raphael Groner]

Hi Miro,

Post by Miro Hrončok
1) Long orphaned packages are not being retired after 6 weeks
2) FTBFS package are not being orphaned, nor retired

thanks for pointing to these still open topics but promised since ages. My vote goes for you and thanks also for your effort.

It would be really appreciated to see those zombie packages being finally dropped.

Promises without fulfillment at any time are just painful. So let's go for and apply this small mass retirement.

Regards, Raphael
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[Kevin Kofler]

Post by Raphael Groner
thanks for pointing to these still open topics but promised since ages. My
vote goes for you and thanks also for your effort.
It would be really appreciated to see those zombie packages being finally dropped.
Promises without fulfillment at any time are just painful. So let's go for
and apply this small mass retirement.

I disagree. If the packages still work, dropping them is a disservice for
our users. I think these mass deletions should just deliberately stop
happening.

Kevin Kofler
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[Randy Barlow]

Post by Miro Hrončok
I'd like to discuss with FESCo: What can I do about Fedora policies that
are not happening. Notably, I mean policies for removing cruft from Fedora.
https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1970
https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1973
https://pagure.io/releng/issue/7718

Sure thing!

[Randy Barlow]

Post by Randy Barlow
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the
FESCo meeting Monday at 15:00UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on
irc.freenode.net.

We did not reach quorum yesterday, so the meeting was canceled.